Comments for The Yorkshire Ranter http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog A non-kinetic onslaught Thu, 25 Aug 2016 16:06:05 +0000 hourly 1 Comment on Please stop looking for Labour voters in the Fens. They never existed by Guano http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/2016/08/22/please-stop-looking-for-labour-voters-in-the-fens-they-never-existed/#comment-75691 Thu, 25 Aug 2016 16:06:05 +0000 http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/?p=5184#comment-75691 I’m much more concerned about Chuka’s claim, just after the referendum, that the British people had clearly said that they wanted more controls on immigration. Perhaps it is what he wanted to hear rather than what the referendum question was about.

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Comment on Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail 1972, in 2016 by Igor Belanov http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/2016/08/23/fear-and-loathing-on-the-campaign-trail-1972-in-2016/#comment-75658 Wed, 24 Aug 2016 18:25:25 +0000 http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/?p=5189#comment-75658 “This year, the book is a painful story of a movement campaign that never escaped from its deeply hippyish and middle-class roots and that as a result risked losing the whole party.”

Go on then, tell us. It certainly doesn’t bear any resemblance to reality so I presume it must be fiction.

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Comment on Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail 1972, in 2016 by Chris E http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/2016/08/23/fear-and-loathing-on-the-campaign-trail-1972-in-2016/#comment-75653 Wed, 24 Aug 2016 14:33:08 +0000 http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/?p=5189#comment-75653 I really doubt Duncan Weldon is correct unfortunately – the problem the Tories would have with implementing it in any sensible way (as opposed to pumping up the housing market) would be that it would run counter to the narrative of the mythical benefits claimant who is living high off the government.

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Comment on Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail 1972, in 2016 by yorksranter http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/2016/08/23/fear-and-loathing-on-the-campaign-trail-1972-in-2016/#comment-75649 Wed, 24 Aug 2016 10:38:00 +0000 http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/?p=5189#comment-75649 The best bits of the book are when HST is being a very good sportswriter who happens to be reporting on the Olympics of politics; the disappointing ones are when he’s being a fan, singing his heart out for the lads. (After all, it was an intricate political coup that necessitated stabbing the Women’s Coalition in the front in order to stab Humphrey in the back.)

The guy you’re thinking of would be Sandy Berger, btw. Also, I don’t really understand the hate-obsession with Humphrey, either. I get the impression HST focused his bitterness post-1968 on Humphrey because, well, he was the guy left standing. Hate is very like love in that it’s much better with a partner (I’m adapting a quote from Pierre Mendés-France here), and I guess Humph was available.

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Comment on Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail 1972, in 2016 by belle le triste http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/2016/08/23/fear-and-loathing-on-the-campaign-trail-1972-in-2016/#comment-75647 Wed, 24 Aug 2016 09:57:55 +0000 http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/?p=5189#comment-75647 Also — slightly to push back against Alex — isn’t the moment of maximum excitement in F&LotCT at the convention, when the young idealistic political operators round McGovern pull off an intricate procedural coup more in common with ordinary (read treacherous salami-slicing) politics than utopian absence of competence? And didn’t at least some these operators end up as senior Clinton sidepeople, still operating and salami-slicing? I need to re-read the book myself…

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Comment on Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail 1972, in 2016 by belle le triste http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/2016/08/23/fear-and-loathing-on-the-campaign-trail-1972-in-2016/#comment-75646 Wed, 24 Aug 2016 09:51:00 +0000 http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/?p=5189#comment-75646 One of HST’s all-time bête noirs is Hubert Humphrey is — back in the day, when I read and reread F&LotCT often (it’s his best work by a long way). Reasons then seemed obvious (ugly compromised old party man fatally tied to Vietnam, no kennedy he etc — plus he lost in 1968) — but knowing quite a bit more about the dynamics of US politics I find HST’s hostility a *lot* more problematic. Once, long ago, I did a phone interview with James Brown (yes that one, namedrop klaxon) and I asked him who he respected politically, and he said Humphrey, first and last. At the time this was startling to me — but it entirely makes sense, given Brown’s political caution. HH was one of the insider architects of Civil Rights — not a marcher, not an agitator, but one of the Dem pols who moved to counter the Dixiecrats and so on. And one of LBJ’s key pointmen ensuring it went through etc — which involved a LOT of salami-slicing that looked non-great close up. Well, the Kennedy star has dimmed and LBJ’s has risen somewhat, as Vietnam fades into non-salient memory. Does HST even mention LBJ in F&LotCT?

(I’m not arguing that HST was racist — he was close to Dick Gregory and Oscar Acosta so very obviously not — but his sympathies were with the younger black radicals who despised the entire system, not the much more numerous, somewhat older layer of black American voters who voted pragmatically precisely because they believed — from long and bitter experience — that real change is slow and needs to be nailed down every step of the way…)

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Comment on Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail 1972, in 2016 by yorksranter http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/2016/08/23/fear-and-loathing-on-the-campaign-trail-1972-in-2016/#comment-75643 Wed, 24 Aug 2016 08:05:02 +0000 http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/?p=5189#comment-75643 the Sherman accent is an efen bigger vun!

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Comment on Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail 1972, in 2016 by nick s http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/2016/08/23/fear-and-loathing-on-the-campaign-trail-1972-in-2016/#comment-75637 Wed, 24 Aug 2016 03:58:54 +0000 http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/?p=5189#comment-75637 Damn, I missed that first time. “No shooting, if possible” really is a tell.

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Comment on Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail 1972, in 2016 by yorksranter http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/2016/08/23/fear-and-loathing-on-the-campaign-trail-1972-in-2016/#comment-75630 Tue, 23 Aug 2016 21:56:23 +0000 http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/?p=5189#comment-75630 Drunken Nazi Watch: 8m 46s

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Comment on Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail 1972, in 2016 by nick s http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/2016/08/23/fear-and-loathing-on-the-campaign-trail-1972-in-2016/#comment-75628 Tue, 23 Aug 2016 21:19:35 +0000 http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/?p=5189#comment-75628 The Thames TV doc on HST’s 1970 run for sheriff of Pitkin County, Colorado (i.e. Aspen) showed up online a few months ago, and it’s a kind of precursor to ’72 in its freaks vs. squares contest, and Thompson’s uneasy role as the freak candidate. (NSFW thanks to skinny-dipping hippies.)

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